2-track/USB input & output in the X1204USB - what's it for?

  1. #11 by Jack Doug on 02-13-2013
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    Hi Pavel,

    I've been fighting the same battle, and finally I have to give up Behringer usb mixers. Tried two X1222USBs and almost tried an X1204USB.

    My current solution is to buy a Behringer FX mixer (1002FX/1202FX or UBxxxxFX etc) plus a usb SoundBlaster. Actually I have been using this configuration for years and the result is pretty good.

    Hope it helps.
  2. #12 by Gerome Gacula on 08-14-2013
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    i have the same problem with pavel but not really that familiar with mixers yet. im new to this thing. i bought my xenyx 1204fx only for karaoke purposes and live performance when friends get together in the weekends. lately, i tried recording my performance by singing through youtube's karoake videos. luckily, i have creative audigy 2 zs sound card that does the trick. in audacity, i've chosen "what U hear" option from the recording/line in drop down menu.

    im quite interested in getting a USB mixer for that purpose(karaoke recording thru streamed online content). but reading through here seems to make things complicated. Mr. Glenn Slater, can you recommend any behringer setup and equipment that does the trick? if there is any.

    thank you.
  3. #13 by Rafał Szatanik on 10-16-2013
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    XENYX X1204USB and UCA202 USB driver

    Herr Behringer,
    what is this constant noise (every 1000 Hz) on using your USB driver pluging XENYX X1204USB mixer or UCA202 interface? This problem appears on Windows XP Home and Vista Home on two different computers.

    Screenshots attached:
    http://www.sendspace.com/file/2wfbw9
    http://www.sendspace.com/file/0ri4ue

    Thanx for help
  4. #14 by John Daniels on 12-27-2015
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    I'd like to add a Note to this very important Topic.

    I realize that this thread is somewhat old -but this is my 2015 experience with my brand new Behringer Xenyx QX1202USB:

    I bought the mixer for the sole purpose of recording Live Karaoke to my super-fast PC running Windows 7 x64. Guess what? USB/2-track is utterly and completely useless thanks to the two black buttons in the USB/2-track section of the mixer

    I know now ( from Google/YouTube research and from this thread ) that it is only possible if the karaoke sound ( aka playback ) goes through one of the other lines I have not tried that yet but the suggestion seems logical.

    On the other hand, I am not buying the argument from Glenn Slater: "This is just a firm policy that we do not have a work around for" -in the sense that: Ok. No workaround but at least CHANGE your future hardware by eg using USB3 which is bi-directional ( I call it full duplex ), would you ?? -and not only the hardware: please put a little more effort into the new USB3-driver software to make it suit Windows 7 x64 and up. I am sure many more of your customers would be very happy if you did this

    I also disagree with the argument from Chris Painter: "This is specifically designed to prevent a horrible feedback loop." I would be nowhere near a horrible fb loop if I was to send both mike-IN and 2-track sounds through USB to PC while hearing BOTH in my headphones connected to the "phones" plug on the mixer! Oh, and here is the comical part: I can listen AND record both -just NOT at the same time ?? I would expect this to work on any mixer -unless, of course, the QX1202USB is not really a mixer ??

    Oh no, I'm not done yet

    Latency issues ? -only 1 hardware related. That's when you, in pure frustration of the above mentioned, try to loop sound back and forth between mixer and PC there will be a delay, naturally, but HEY, no "horrible fb loop" If you try that using software, well, that's another story. ASIO4ALL is your best bet BUT it has its flaws too I'm sad to say. You have to play around with it to get no latency; and remember: YOUR hardware must be top-notch like mine -otherwise: you will be in a world of HURT

    Pros: Crystal clear sound and effects when using a pro microphone with the mixer.

    Cons: Most of the above but especially the USB/2-track fighting over who gets the output. That is bad design from the beginning, pure and simple.
  5. #15 by Kyle Rickards on 04-13-2017
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    X1222

    Hi all

    I also have a behringer mixer and I am a bit puzzled about the 2 Track function, I can't see any use for it? I usually run microphones into the PC via the desk via USB but any music from my MP3 player into the 2 track doesn't get passed into the PC?

    Thanks
    Kyle
  6. #16 by Michael Lapke on 04-13-2017
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    - Kyle Rickards wrote View Post
    Hi all

    I also have a behringer mixer and I am a bit puzzled about the 2 Track function, I can't see any use for it? I usually run microphones into the PC via the desk via USB but any music from my MP3 player into the 2 track doesn't get passed into the PC?

    Thanks
    Kyle
    Hi Kyle, welcome to the forum!

    So with our XENYX USB Mixers the RCA 2-TRACK and the USB Ins/Outs are all run off the same bus, meaning you will use one or the other but not both. What I've experienced from using these mixers is that the Computer USB Ins/Outs will always override the RCA 2-TRACK ins/outs. So if you have an external MP3 player connected to the RCA 2-TRACK inputs on the mixer AND have your computer connected to it via USB cable then the the USB will get preference on signals coming in and going out. For this reason you won't be able to feed signal from your MP3 player into the 2-TRACK RCA inputs and then send that signal to your computer.

    You can however feed your MP3 Player's signal into two of the line level input channels of your mixer (using a cable like this) and then send that to your Mixer's MAIN MIX bus which is what actually feeds your computer.

    Hope this helps clarify things for you.

    Michael Lapke
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  7. #17 by Kyle Rickards on 04-14-2017
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    Many thanks Michael, I understand now
  8. #18 by Scott Fisher on 6 Days Ago
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    Use the usb input as output.

    I had the same issue as a karaoke host. I wanted to record my singers. The tape out rca outputs were not sending a signal. Just for the sake of it I plugged the audio recorder into the 2 track/usb input not output and to my surprise it works now. Looks like the board was designed wrong. Hope tgis works for you as well.
  9. #19 by Michael Lapke on 4 Days Ago
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    - Scott Fisher wrote View Post
    I had the same issue as a karaoke host. I wanted to record my singers. The tape out rca outputs were not sending a signal. Just for the sake of it I plugged the audio recorder into the 2 track/usb input not output and to my surprise it works now. Looks like the board was designed wrong. Hope tgis works for you as well.
    You did what?

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  10. #20 by Ken Mitchell on 2 Days Ago
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    - Scott Fisher wrote View Post
    I had the same issue as a karaoke host. I wanted to record my singers. The tape out rca outputs were not sending a signal. Just for the sake of it I plugged the audio recorder into the 2 track/usb input not output and to my surprise it works now. Looks like the board was designed wrong. Hope tgis works for you as well.
    Hi Scott,

    Can you post a picture of your connections? I'm pretty sure Behringer has shipped thousands of these units so I'd be really surprised if the board had a design problem.

    Ken

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